This is a video of an EOD robot taking one for the team filmed and posted by an Iraqi Sunni insurgents & supporters. More interesting is the back and forth comments on YouTube about its place in the larger media campaign.
silence34342000 (video poster): can you imagine how many resistance videos are released daily each showing at least 4 marines dying(not considering flying rockets on american bases and operations which didnt get videod)? do you know how many Jihadi groups are in Iraq?
you dont know the size of resistance and its abilities.
plz ark get me one video showing the Mujahidin killing innocent ppl
arkgunslinger: Here’s a few
v=PpOHYdMQOkE “There has been a surge in sectarian violence in Iraq”
v=rdJTOIi0vaQ “Ever more Iraqi civilians murdered”
v=3hnkGxT3gAg “Chlorine truck bombs in Iraq”
v=MPAoQ8jQJPs “Many Killed in Iraq Car Bombing”
v=pFmdaWWKGMI “Typical Car bombing aftermath”
silence34342000: i watched them all and i have one comment
show me ONE Mujahid just one in any of these videos.
see Jihad videos theyre marked by a Jihadi group sign or accompained by comment of a Jihadi leader or Mujahidin themselves appearing in the video.
in the videos you brought it isnt clear who did those bombings and all of them just showing smoke and burnt things without a proof that this was done by Mujahidin
silence34342000: see how Jihad media is clear and simple it shows everything starting from planning an operation and ending with excuting it your media brings the burnt things and tells you the evil Mujahidin did it without any proof and without one Mujahid appearing in the video
The poster, an insurgent supporter at the very least, recognizes the need for IO and the value of a clear and simple media product. Taunting the (presumably) American to “Show me one mujahid…in any of these videos” killing innocent people, he shifts responsibility of demonstrating the contradiction of the insurgents message and tactics to the American.
By the way, what’s State doing to counter these messages? Under the “leadership” of Karen Hughes, State has “four of five” bloggers that search through cyberspace and attempt to correct information with official US position statements. Underwhelming to say the least.
Voize says:
I just wanted to know if silence34342000 agrees with the epithet of Insurgent?
Supporter perhaps, or IO booster or something – but insurgent?
Liz
Catharsis says:
What if….
Catharsis says:
The first recorded chlorine attack by Iraqi insurgents occurred on January 28, 2007 — http://www.wmdinsights.com/I15/I15_ME1_Chlorine.htm
Which is interesting from my point of view…..
Voize says:
It seems to me, that the average Joe if asked would have had the perception that chlorine in bombs and truck etc had been used much more extensively and was much more common place than they are.
Accounts differ, but chlorine might have been used maybe once a month in Iraq.
I agree that exploding chlorine is a horrible and terrifying weapon, but I would also propose that someone has done a great IO job in scaring the wits out of Americans at home – way out of proportion to the actual reality.
Voize says:
Oh and my first remark was about the way you named the poster in the YouTube comment excerpt. I know you later made a small allowance for the fact that he might not be an insurgent, but a “supporter at the very least”. But that was after you had altered the posters alias in what can appear to be a direct quote. Plus you did not mention this alteration or provide a link to the site from which the passage came.
I like you far too much not to point this out, MR (-;
MountainRunner says:
Voize… point taken on the labelling of the insurgent. Modified to the original names.
Jason Sigger says:
Voize has an interesting point there on the CL2 bombs – they haven’t been that frequent, especially in light of the press coverage of them. I would differ in the view that CL2 is “a horrifying and terrifying weapon,” since the actual casualties by same have been limited to temporary incapacitation if the CL2 was inhaled or caused chemical burns on the skin. And I think the only IO done to Americans is the DHS Secretary and some others trying to create a justification to clamp down on the American chemical industry. I’ll bet 90 percent of the public has already forgotten about the CL2 bombs, and they probably never worried about the threat of CL2 in the United States.